MINUTES 
                                           
                  SENATE COMMITTEE ON INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS 
                             Wednesday, March 24, 2004 
                                     10:00 a.m. 
                              Capitol Extension E2.016 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on  
         Intergovernmental Relations was held on Wednesday, March 24,  
         2004, in the Capitol Extension E2.016 in a joint hearing with  
         the House Committee on Urban Affairs. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Frank Madla                     Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Kim Brimer                      Senator Mario Gallegos,  
                                                 Jr. 
         Senator Jeff Wentworth 
                                           
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         The chair of the House Committee on Urban Affairs and the chair  
         of the Senate Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs called the  
         meeting to order at 10:04 a.m.  There being a quorum established  
         at 10:09 a.m. for the Senate Committee on Intergovernmental  
         Relations, the following business was transacted:   
          
         Representative Talton and Senator Madla shared presiding duties.   
          
         The committee heard invited testimony from the following  
         individuals regarding interim committee charge two: 
          
                         John Henneberger 
              Texas Low Income Housing Information Service 
               
               Edwina Carrington 
              Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs 
               
               Donna Chatham 
              Association of Rural Communities in Texas 
               
               Brian Cogburn 
              21st Century Companies 
          
         At 10:09 a.m. the chair of the Senate Committee on  
         Intergovernmental Relations laid out the proposed interim rules  
         and moved there adoption.  There being no objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         Following invited and public testimony, the chair of the Senate  
         Committee on Intergovernmental Relations explained other  
         committee charges and indicated that the remainder of the  
         committee's hearings will take place in Austin, Texas. 
          
         There being no further business, at 11:52 a.m. Senator Madla  
         moved that the Committee on Intergovernmental Relations stand  
         recessed subject to the call of the chair.  Without objections,  
         it was so ordered. 
          
         There being no further business, at 4:11 p.m. Representative  
         Talton moved that the Committee on Urban Affairs stand recessed  
         subject to the call of the chair.  Without objections, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
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         Senator Frank Madla, Chair 
          
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         Tara Snowden, Clerk