MINUTES 
                                           
                            SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                                Monday, May 2, 2005 
                                     9:00 a.m.  
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was  
         held on Monday, May 2, 2005, in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Steve Ogden                     Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Senator Kip Averitt 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
         Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Royce West 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 9:04 a.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         At 9:06 a.m. Senator Zaffirini assumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out HB 3 and recognized the Senate sponsor,  
         Senator Ogden, to explain the bill.  Senator Ogden sent up a  
         committee substitute; the chair recognized Senator Ogden to  
         explain the difference between the committee substitute and the  
         bill as filed.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the bill  
         are shown on the attached list. 
          
         The chair laid out SJR 38 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Ogden, to explain the bill.   Senator Ogden sent up a committee  
         substitute; the chair recognized Senator Ogden to explain the  
         difference between the committee substitute and the bill as  
         filed.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the bill are  
  
         shown on the attached list.    
          
         At 11:54 a.m. Senator Zaffirini moved that the Committee stand  
         recessed until 30 minutes after adjournment of the Senate;  
         without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini reconvened the Committee at 6:31 p.m. 
          
         Testimony on HB 3 and SJR 38 resumed. 
          
         Senator Ogden moved that HB 3 be left pending; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         Senator Ogden moved that SJR 38 be left pending; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         At 8:02 p.m. Senator Ogden resumed the chair.   
          
         There being no further business, at 8:04 p.m. Senator Ogden  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed until 9:30 a.m. the  
         following morning, May 3, 2005.  Without objection, it was so  
         ordered.   
          
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         Senator Steve Ogden, Chair 
          
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         Amy Jeter, Clerk