MINUTES 
                                           
                           Committee on Veteran Affairs & 
                               Military Installations 
                                           
                             Wednesday, April 23, 2003 
            1:30 p.m. (or upon adjournment of the Senate--whichever is  
                                       later) 
                             Betty King Committee Room 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Texas Senate Committee on Veteran  
         Affairs and Military Installations was held on Wednesday, April  
         23, 2003, in the Betty King Committee Room (2E.20) of the State  
         Capitol Building, behind the Senate Chamber, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Leticia Van de Putte, Chair     Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Craig Estes, Vice Chair         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
          
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         The Chair called the hearing to order at 4:26 p.m., pursuant to  
         the RECESS of the Committee's last regularly-posted hearing  
         which was held on Wednesday, April 16, 2003. 
          
         The Chair requested that Ms. Deborah Fine-Knapp, Clerk of the  
         standing Subcommittee on Base Realignment and Closure, to lead  
         the audience, the members, and the Committee staff, in the  
         Pledge of Allegiance to the American Flag.  Ms. Fine-Knapp did  
         so. 
          
         Vice Chair Estes now present (4:27 p.m.) 
          
         The Chair asked that Vice Chair Estes temporarily preside over  
         the Committee.  The Vice Chair did so. 
          
         The Vice Chair laid before the Committee Senate Bill No. 6 and  
         called upon its author, Chair Van de Putte, to explain the bill.   
         Chair Van de Putte did so. 
          
         Senator Fraser now present (4:29 p.m.)  As a result of Fraser's  
         arrival, a quorum was now established with the Chair, the Vice  
         Chair, and Senator Fraser all present. 
          
         The Vice Chair recognized Mr. Colin G. Haza, Government Affairs  
         Liaison, Texas Lottery Commission, to testify ON Senate Bill No.  
         6.  Mr. Haza came forward but did not yet speak. 
  
         The Chair offered Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill No.  
         6. 
          
         Senator Fraser posed questions to Mr. Haza  relative to  
         Committee Amendment No. 1.  Mr. Haza responded to those  
         questions. 
          
         The Chair then withdrew Committee Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill  
         No. 6. 
          
         The Vice Chair asked if there were any other persons present  
         wishing to testify for, against, or on Senate Bill No. 6.  There  
         was no response.  The Vice Chair announced that public testimony  
         relative to Senate Bill No. 6 would now be closed. 
          
         On motion of the Chair, the Committee voted (3 YEAS--Chair Van  
         de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, and Fraser; 0 NAYS; 2 ABSENT--Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 PNV) to favorably report Senate Bill No. 6,  
         unchanged, back to the full Senate with the recommendation that  
         it do pass. 
          
         The Chair resumed presiding over the Committee. 
          
         The Chair noted that the Subcommittee on Base Realignment and  
         Closure had reported to the full Committee a complete substitute  
         for Senate Bill No. 1295. 
          
         The Chair asked again that Vice Chair Estes temporarily preside  
         over the Committee.  The Vice Chair again did so. 
          
         The Vice Chair laid before the Committee--as a report of the  
         standing Subcommittee on Base Realignment and Closure--the  
         complete Subcommittee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1295  
         (Legislative Council inventory number 78R11975 MCK-D) and called  
         upon its author, Chair Van de Putte, to explain the substituted  
         version of the bill as presented by the Subcommittee.  Chair Van  
         de Putte did so. 
          
         The Chair offered Committee Amendment No. 1 to the Subcommittee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1295. 
          
         The Vice Chair asked if there was any objection to the adoption  
         of Committee Amendment No. 1.  No objection was raised. 
          
         The Chair then moved that Committee Amendment No. 1 be "rolled  
         into" the Subcommittee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1295.  The  
         Vice Chair asked if there was any objection to doing so.  No  
         objection was raised. 
          
         The Vice Chair then asked if there were any persons present  
         wishing to testify for, against, or on the Subcommittee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1295--with Committee Amendment  
         No. 1 "rolled into" it.  There was no response.  The Vice Chair  
         announced that public testimony relative to the Subcommittee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1295 would now be closed. 
  
                                                                    Minutes 
                                                  Wednesday, April 23, 2003 
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         The Chair moved that the product of the merger of the  
         Subcommittee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1295 and Committee  
         Amendment No. 1 be reported favorably back to the full Senate  
         with the recommendation that it do pass.  The Committee voted to  
         do precisely that (3 YEAS--Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes,  
         and Fraser; 0 NAYS; 2 ABSENT--Madla and Shapleigh; 0 PNV). 
          
         The Vice Chair continued to preside over the Committee. 
          
         The Vice Chair laid before the Committee--as a matter of pending  
         business--Senate Bill No. 1800 and called upon its author, Chair  
         Van de Putte, to explain the bill.  The Chair then requested  
         that a complete Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1800  
         (Legislative Council inventory number 78R12491 MCK-D) be laid  
         before the Committee in lieu of the original bill. 
          
         The Vice Chair then laid before the Committee the complete  
         Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1800 (Legislative  
         Council inventory number 78R12491 MCK-D) and again called upon  
         the author of the original Senate Bill No. 1800, Chair Van de  
         Putte, to explain the proposed Committee Substitute for Senate  
         Bill No. 1800.  Chair Van de Putte did so. 
          
         The Vice Chair asked if there were any persons present wishing  
         to testify for, against, or on the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 1800.  There was no response.  The Vice Chair  
         announced that public testimony relative to the Committee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1800 would now be closed. 
          
         On motion of the Chair, the Committee voted (3 YEAS--Chair Van  
         de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, and Fraser; 0 NAYS; 2 ABSENT--Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 PNV) to favorably report the Committee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1800, in lieu of the original  
         Senate Bill No. 1800, back to the full Senate with the  
         recommendation that it do pass. 
          
         On motion of the Chair, and without objection, the Committee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1800 was recommended for  
         placement upon the Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair resumed presiding over the Committee. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee the minutes of the previous  
         hearing of the Committee which had been held on Wednesday, April  
         16, 2003.  On motion of Senator Fraser, and without objection,  
         those minutes were approved. 
          
         There being no further business, the Chair, at 5:10 p.m.,  
         RECESSED the Committee subject to the call of the Chair. 
          
                                                                    Minutes 
                                                  Wednesday, April 23, 2003 
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         LETICIA VAN DE PUTTE, R.Ph., Chair 
          
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         GREGORY D. WATSON, Committee Clerk