MINUTES 
                                           
                           Committee on Veteran Affairs & 
                               Military Installations 
                                           
                              Wednesday, April 2, 2003 
            1:30 p.m. (or upon adjournment of the Senate--whichever is  
                                       later) 
                             Betty King Committee Room 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Texas Senate Committee on Veteran  
         Affairs and Military Installations was held on Wednesday, April  
         2, 2003, in the Betty King Committee Room (2E.20) of the State  
         Capitol Building, behind the Senate Chamber, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Leticia Van de Putte, Chair 
         Senator Craig Estes, Vice Chair 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
                                           
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         The Chair called the hearing to order at 5:08 p.m.,  
         pursuant to the RECESS of the Committee's last  
         hearing which was held on Wednesday, March 26,  
         2003.  A quorum was announced present. 
          
         The Chair requested that Senator Mario Gallegos,  
         Jr., present to explain a bill on today's hearing  
         agenda, to lead the audience, the members, and the  
         staff, in the Pledge of Allegiance to the American  
         Flag.  Senator Gallegos did so. 
          
         The Chair made a statement relative to the policy  
         of the Committee which prohibits the use of  
         cellular telephones during the hearing. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee Senate Bill No.  
         1288 and called upon its author, Senator Gallegos,  
         to explain the bill.  Senator Gallegos did so. 
          
         The Chair urged those persons wishing to testify  
         for, against, or on any bill appearing on today's  
         agenda to fill out a Witness Registration Card and  
         pointed out that by signing the Card, the witness  
         is already swearing to tell the truth, the whole  
         truth, and nothing but the truth. 
  
         The Chair recognized Mr. Johnny Villarreal,  
         Legislative Director, Houston Fire Fighters Local  
         341, to testify IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill No. 1288.   
         Mr. Villarreal did so. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Carvel McNeil, Jr.,  
         Legislative Chairman, Houston Police Patrolmen's  
         Union, to testify IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill No. 1288.   
         Mr. McNeil did so. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Stephen Sanders,  
         Legislative Director, Texas Fraternal Order of  
         Police, to testify IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill No.  
         1288.  Mr. Sanders did so. 
          
         The Chair asked if there were any other persons  
         present wishing to testify for, against, or on  
         Senate Bill No. 1288.  There was no response.  The  
         Chair announced that public testimony on Senate  
         Bill No. 1288 would now be closed. 
          
         Senate Bill No. 1288 was left pending before the  
         Committee. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee Senate Bill No.  
         903 and called upon its author, Senator Lindsay, to  
         explain the bill.  Senator Lindsay did so. 
          
         The Chair noted that Mr. Caton Fenz, Legislative  
         Coordinator, Harris County, had registered IN FAVOR  
         OF Senate Bill No. 903, but did not wish to  
         actually testify. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Dave Bohlmann, Toll  
         Operations Manager, Harris County Toll Road  
         Authority, to testify IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill No.  
         903.  Mr. Bohlmann did so. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Bernard Koudelka,  
         Assistant Director, Operations, Harris County Toll  
         Road Authority, to testify IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill  
         No. 903.  Mr. Koudelka did so. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Phil Russell, Director,  
         Texas Turnpike Authority Division, Texas Department  
         of Transportation, to testify ON Senate Bill No.  
         903.  Mr. Russell did so. 
          
         The Chair asked if there were any other persons  
         present wishing to testify for, against, or on  
         Senate Bill No. 903.  There was no response.  The  
         Chair announced that public testimony on Senate  
         Bill No. 903 would now be closed. 
                                                                            
         Senate Bill No. 903 was left pending before the  
         Committee. 
          
         The Chair announced that the Committee would stand  
         at ease (5:28 p.m.) 
          
         The Chair called the Committee back to order (5:41  
         p.m.) 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee Senate Bill No.  
         988 and called upon its author, Senator Armbrister,  
         to explain the bill.  Senator Armbrister did so. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Jerry L. Hooper, Sr.,  
         Representative SWR, Aircraft Owners & Pilots  
         Association, to testify IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill No.  
         988.  Mr. Hooper did so. 
          
         The Chair asked if there were any other persons  
         present wishing to testify for, against, or on  
         Senate Bill No. 988.  There was no response.  The  
         Chair announced that public testimony on Senate  
         Bill No. 988 would now be closed. 
          
         Senate Bill No. 988 was left pending before the  
         Committee. 
          
         The Chair announced that the Committee would stand  
         at ease (5:47 p.m.) 
          
         The Chair called the Committee back to order (5:48  
         p.m.) 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee Senate Bill No.  
         1237 and called upon its author, Vice Chair Estes,  
         to explain the bill.  The Vice Chair requested that  
         a complete committee substitute for Senate Bill No.  
         1237 (Legislative Council inventory number 78R10745  
         JTS-F) be laid before the Committee in lieu of the  
         original bill. 
          
         The Chair then laid before the Committee the  
         Complete Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No.  
         1237.  Vice Chair Estes explained the committee  
         substitute, noting the differences between the  
         substitute and the original bill. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Douglas E. Oldmixon,  
         Executive Secretary, Texas Veterans Land Board and  
         Ms. Noelle Letteri, Attorney-Legal Department,  
         General Land Office/Veterans Land Board, to testify  
         in tandem ON the Committee Substitute for Senate  
         Bill No. 1237.  Mr. Oldmixon and Ms. Letteri did  
         so. 
                                                                            
         The Chair asked if there were any other persons  
         present wishing to testify for, against, or on the  
         Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1237.   
         There was no response.  The Chair announced that  
         public testimony on the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 1237 would now be closed. 
          
         The Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 1237  
         was left pending before the Committee. 
          
         The Chair asked that Vice Chair Estes temporarily  
         preside over the Committee.  The Vice Chair did so. 
          
         The Vice Chair laid before the Committee Senate  
         Bill No. 957, and called upon its author, Chair Van  
         de Putte, to explain the bill.  Chair Van de Putte  
         did so. 
          
         The Vice Chair noted that Ms. Noelle Letteri,  
         Attorney-Legal Department, General Land  
         Office/Veterans Land Board, had registered ON  
         Senate Bill No. 957, but did not wish to actually  
         testify. 
          
         The Vice Chair noted that Mr. Douglas E. Oldmixon,  
         Executive Secretary, Texas Veterans Land Board, had  
         registered ON Senate Bill No. 957, but did not wish  
         to actually testify. 
          
         The Vice Chair noted that Mr. David Gonzales,  
         Director of Public Affairs, Texas Pharmacy  
         Association, had registered IN FAVOR OF Senate Bill  
         No. 957, but did not wish to actually testify. 
          
         The Vice Chair asked if there were any other  
         persons present wishing to testify for, against, or  
         on Senate Bill No. 957.  There was no response.   
         The Vice Chair announced that public testimony on  
         Senate Bill No. 957 would now be closed. 
          
         Senate Bill No. 957 was left pending before the  
         Committee. 
          
         The Chair resumed presiding over the Committee. 
          
         The Chair announced that the Committee would stand  
         at ease (6:00 p.m.) 
          
         The Chair called the Committee back to order (6:06  
         p.m.) 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee as pending  
         business from previous hearings Senate Bill No. 81  
         and the Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 85  
         (Legislative Council inventory number 78R8431                                                                              
         JRD-D). 
          
         The Chair recognized The Honorable Nancy E. Rister,  
         County Clerk, Texas County & District Clerks  
         Association, to testify ON Senate Bill No. 81 and  
         the Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 85.   
         Ms. Rister did so. 
          
         Senator Shapleigh now present (6:07 p.m.) 
          
         Ms. Rister continued her testimony ON Senate Bill  
         No. 81 and the Committee Substitute for Senate Bill  
         No. 85. 
          
         Senate Bill No. 81, and the Committee Substitute  
         for Senate Bill No. 85, were again left pending  
         before the Committee. 
          
         Senator Madla now present (6:08 p.m.) 
          
         The Chair announced that voting would take place on  
         several pending bills. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again Senate  
         Bill No. 903. 
          
         The Vice Chair offered a complete committee  
         substitute for Senate Bill No. 903 (Legislative  
         Council inventory number 78R10197 JTS-F), noting  
         the differences between the substitute and the  
         original bill. 
          
         On motion of the Vice Chair, the Committee voted (4  
         YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0 PNV)  
         to favorably report the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 903 in lieu of the original Senate  
         Bill No. 903 back to the full Senate with the  
         recommendation that it do pass. 
          
         On motion of Senator Shapleigh, and without  
         objection, the Committee Substitute for Senate Bill  
         No. 903 was recommended for placement upon the  
         Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair asked that Vice Chair Estes preside  
         temporarily over the Committee.  The Vice Chair did  
         so. 
          
         The Vice Chair laid before the Committee again  
         Senate Bill No. 957. 
          
         On motion of Chair Van de Putte, the Committee  
         voted (4 YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes,  
         Madla and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0                                                                              
         PNV) to favorably report Senate Bill No. 957 back  
         to the full Senate with the recommendation that it  
         do pass.  
          
         The Chair resumed presiding over the Committee. 
          
         On motion of Senator Shapleigh, and without  
         objection, Senate Bill No. 957 was recommended for  
         placement upon the Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again Senate  
         Bill No. 988. 
          
         On motion of Senator Shapleigh, the Committee voted  
         (4 YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0 PNV)  
         to favorably report Senate Bill No. 988 back to the  
         full Senate with the recommendation that it do  
         pass. 
          
         On motion of Senator Shapleigh, and without  
         objection, Senate Bill No. 988 was recommended for  
         placement upon the Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again the  
         complete Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No.  
         1237. 
          
         On motion of Vice Chair Estes, the Committee voted  
         (4 YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0 PNV)  
         to favorably report  the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 1237 in lieu of the original Senate  
         Bill No. 1237 back to the full Senate with the  
         recommendation that it do pass. 
          
         On motion of Senator Shapleigh, and without  
         objection, the Committee Substitute for Senate Bill  
         No. 1237 was recommended for placement upon the  
         Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again Senate  
         Bill No. 1288. 
          
         Senator Shapleigh offered Committee Amendment No. 1  
         to Senate Bill No. 1288, which amendment was  
         adopted without objection. 
          
         Vice Chair Estes offered Committee Amendment No. 2  
         to Senate Bill No. 1288, which amendment was  
         adopted without objection. 
          
         On motion of Senator Shapleigh, the Committee voted  
         (4 YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0 PNV)  
                                                                            
         to favorably report Senate Bill No. 1288 as  
         amended back to the full Senate with the  
         recommendation that it do pass. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again as  
         pending business from a previous hearing of the  
         Committee Senate Bill No. 719. 
          
         On motion of Senator Madla, the Committee voted (4  
         YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0 PNV)  
         to favorably report Senate Bill No. 719 back to the  
         full Senate with the recommendation that it do  
         pass. 
          
         On motion of Senator Madla, and without objection,  
         Senate Bill No. 719 was recommended for placement  
         upon the Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again as  
         pending business from a previous hearing of the  
         Committee Senate Bill No. 720. 
          
         On motion of Senator Madla, the Committee voted (4  
         YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes, Madla  
         and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0 PNV)  
         to favorably report Senate Bill No. 720 back to the  
         full Senate with the recommendation that it do  
         pass. 
          
         On motion of Senator Madla, and without objection,  
         Senate Bill No. 720 was recommended for placement  
         upon the Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair asked that Vice Chair Estes preside  
         temporarily over the Committee.  The Vice Chair did  
         so. 
          
         The Vice Chair laid before the Committee again as  
         pending business from a previous hearing of the  
         Committee Senate Bill No. 983. 
          
         On motion of Chair Van de Putte, the Committee  
         voted (4 YEAS Chair Van de Putte, Vice Chair Estes,  
         Madla and Shapleigh; 0 NAYS; 1 ABSENT Fraser; and 0  
         PNV) to favorably report Senate Bill No. 983 back  
         to the full Senate with the recommendation that it  
         do pass. 
          
         On motion of Chair Van de Putte, and without  
         objection, Senate Bill No. 983 was recommended for  
         placement upon the Local and Uncontested Calendar. 
          
         The Chair resumed presiding over the Committee. 
                                                                            
         The Chair laid before the Committee Senate Joint  
         Resolution No. 55 and called upon its author,  
         Senator Shapleigh, a member of the Committee, to  
         explain the joint resolution.  Senator Shapleigh  
         did so. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee the complete  
         Committee Substitute for Senate Joint Resolution  
         No. 55 (Legislative Council inventory number  
         78R10928 MCK-D).  Senator Shapleigh noted the  
         differences between the substitute and the original  
         joint resolution. 
          
         The Chair asked if there were any persons present  
         wishing to testify for, against, or on the  
         Committee Substitute for Senate Joint Resolution  
         No. 55.  There was no response.  The Chair  
         announced that public testimony on the Committee  
         Substitute for Senate Joint Resolution No. 55 would  
         now be closed. 
          
         The Committee Substitute for Senate Joint  
         Resolution No. 55 was left pending before the  
         Committee. 
          
         The Chair laid before the Committee again as  
         pending business from a previous hearing of the  
         Committee Senate Bill No. 652. 
          
         The Chair then laid before the Committee the  
         complete Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No.  
         652 (Legislative Council inventory number 78R10929  
         MCK-D).  Senator Shapleigh noted the differences  
         between the substitute and the original bill. 
          
         The Chair recognized Ms. Maryann Randall, Vice  
         President, City Public Service of San Antonio, to  
         testify IN FAVOR OF the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 652.  Ms. Randall did so. 
          
         The Chair recognized Ms. Joyce Feinberg, Executive  
         Assistant to the Mayor, City of El Paso, to testify  
         IN FAVOR OF the Committee Substitute for Senate  
         Bill No. 652.  Ms. Feinberg did so. 
          
         The Chair noted that Mr. Raymund Rodriguez,  
         Government Affairs Representative, El Paso Electric  
         Company, had registered IN FAVOR OF the Committee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 652, but did not  
         wish to actually testify. 
          
         The Chair recognized Mr. Bill Shine, Civilian Aide,  
         Secretary of the Army (Harker Heights, Texas), to  
         testify IN FAVOR OF the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 652.  Mr. Shine did so.
                                                                            
         The Chair recognized Mr. James Bass,  
         Director-Finance, Texas Department of  
         Transportation, to testify ON the Committee  
         Substitute for Senate Bill No. 652.  Mr. Bass did  
         so. 
          
         The Chair asked if there were any other persons  
         present wishing to testify for, against, or on the  
         Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 652.   
         There was no response.  The Chair announced that  
         public testimony on the Committee Substitute for  
         Senate Bill No. 652 would now be closed. 
          
         The Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 652  
         was left pending before the Committee. 
          
         The Chair announced that the Standing Subcommittee  
         on Base Realignment and Closure would commence its  
         own meeting upon the completion of today's hearing  
         of the full Committee. 
          
         There being no further business, the Chair, at 6:58  
         p.m., RECESSED the Committee subject to the call of  
         the Chair. 
          
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         LETICIA VAN DE PUTTE, R.Ph., Chair 
          
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         GREGORY D. WATSON, Committee Clerk