SENATE COMMITTEE ON STATE AFFAIRS 
                             Wednesday, August 11, 2004 
                                     9:00 a.m. 
                                   Senate Chamber 
         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on State Affairs  
         was held on Wednesday, August 11, 2004, in the Senate Chamber at  
         Austin, Texas. 
         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Tommy Williams                  Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Kenneth Armbrister              Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Rodney Ellis                    Senator Chris Harris 
         Senator Frank Madla                     Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Tommy Williams, the acting chair, called the meeting to  
         order at 9:07 a.m.  There being a quorum present, the following  
         business was transacted:   
         The following testified before the committee: 
         On Interim Charge #4: 
                    David Mattax, Texas Attorney General's Office 
          Kim Stokes, Texas Department of Insurance 
         On Interim Charge #3: 
          Kim Stokes, Texas Department of Insurance 
          Allan Einboden, Scott and White Health Plan 
          Bill Hammond, Texas Association of Business 
          Jeff Clark, National Federation of Independent Business 
          Veronica De La Garza, American Diabetes Association 
          Kim Suiter, National Multiple Sclerosis Society of Texas 
         On Interim Charge #5: 
          Kim Stokes, Texas Department of Insurance 
                    Billy Millwee, HHSC 
         The committee stood in recess until 12:30 p.m. 
         Upon reconvening, testimony on Charge #5 continued: 
          Dr. Eric Yoder, Amerigroup 
          Bill Thames, Firstcare 
          Jerry Bell, Various Texas Non-Profit Hospitals 
          Greg Smith, THA and MHS 
          Matthew Thompson, Capital Physician Management, TMGMA, TMA 
         Registering but not testifying: 
          Ryan Tredway, Texas Department of Insurance 
         There being no further business, the Committee stood recessed  
         subject to the call of the chair.  
         Senator Tommy Williams, Acting Chair 
         Teddy Carter, Clerk