MINUTES 
                                           
                         SENATE COMMITTEE ON STATE AFFAIRS 
                               Tuesday, May 13, 2003 
                                     8:00 a.m. 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on State Affairs  
         was held on Tuesday, May 13, 2003, in the Capitol Extension,  
         Room E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Bill Ratliff                    None 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Kenneth Armbrister 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Rodney Ellis 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Chris Harris 
         Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
                                           
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         Chairman Ratliff called the meeting to order at 8:12 a.m.  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         Chairman Ratliff passed the gavel to Senator Staples.  Senator  
         Staples laid out as pending business HB 4.  Chairman Ratliff  
         sent up a committee substitute; Senator Staples recognized  
         Chairman Ratliff to explain the difference between the new  
         committee substitute and the previous version.   
          
         With Chairman Ratliff back in the chair, Senator Duncan sent up  
         Committee Amendment 1 and moved adoption; without objection, the  
         amendment was adopted. 
          
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 2 and moved adoption;  
         without objection, the amendment was adopted.   
          
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 3 and moved adoption;  
         without objection, the amendment was adopted.   
          
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 4 and moved adoption;  
         without objection, the amendment was adopted.   
          
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 5.  Chairman Ratliff  
  
         moved to leave CA 5 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  During the afternoon session, Chairman Ratliff laid  
         out CA 5 and Senator Duncan moved adoption.  The motion carried  
         with a record vote of 6 ayes, 3 nays, 0 present not voting, and  
         0 absent.   
          
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 6.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 6 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  During the afternoon session, Senator Duncan sent up  
         Committee Amendment 6a and moved adoption; without objection,  
         the amendment was adopted.   
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 7.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 7 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         Senator Madla sent up Committee Amendment 8 and moved adoption;  
         without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Senator Madla sent up Committee Amendment 9 and moved adoption;  
         without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Senator Madla sent up Committee Amendment 10.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 10 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  During the afternoon session, Chairman Ratliff laid  
         out CA 10 and Senator Madla moved adoption; without objection,  
         the amendment was adopted. 
          
         Senator Nelson sent up Committee Amendment 11.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 11 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         Senator Staples sent up Committee Amendment 12 and moved  
         adoption.  The motion carried with a record vote of 4 ayes, 2  
         nays, 0 present not voting, and 3 absent.   
          
         Senator Staples sent up Committee Amendment 13.  Chairman  
         Ratliff moved to leave CA 13 pending; without objection, it was  
         so ordered. 
         At 10:44 a.m., Senator Ratliff moved that the committee stand  
         recessed until after adjournment of the Senate; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Staples assumed the chair  
         several times during the morning session for brief periods of  
         time. 
          
         At 2:25 p.m. the committee reconvened, and Chairman Ratliff laid  
         out Committee Amendment 13.  Once again, CA 13 was left pending  
         without objection. 
          
         Senator Staples sent up Committee Amendment 14 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.   
          
         Senator Staples sent up Committee Amendment 15 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 16 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Senator Harris sent up Committee Amendment 17.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 17 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         Senator Harris sent up Committee Amendment 18.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 17 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         Senator Harris sent up Committee Amendment 19.  Chairman Ratliff  
         moved to leave CA 17 pending; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         Senator Armbrister sent up Committee Amendment 20 and moved  
         adoption.  The motion carried  by a record vote of 4 ayes, 3  
         nays, 0 present not voting, and 2 absent.   
          
         Senator Armbrister sent up Committee Amendment 21.  Chairman  
         Ratliff moved to leave CA 21 pending; without objection, it was  
         so ordered. 
          
         Senator Armbrister sent up Committee Amendment 22 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Senator Armbrister sent up Committee Amendment 23 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Senator Armbrister sent up Committee Amendments 24, 25, and 26.   
         All were withdrawn by the author.  Committee Amendments 27-34  
         were pulled by the author and never laid before the committee. 
          
         Chairman Ratliff sent up Committee Amendment 35 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Chairman Ratliff sent up Committee Amendment 36 and moved  
         adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.  
          
         Chairman Ratliff announced that the following Committee  
         Amendments had been withdrawn by their respective authors:  6,  
         7, 11, 13, 17, 18, 19,  and 21. 
          
         Chairman Ratliff requested unanimous consent to roll the  
         amendments into a committee substitute; without objection, it  
         was so ordered.  Chairman Ratliff then moved that the committee  
         substitute be adopted; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Chairman Ratliff moved that HB 4 do not pass but that CSHB 4 be  
         reported back to the Senate with the recommendation that it do  
         pass and be printed.  The motion carried with a record vote of 9  
         ayes, 0 nay, 0 present not voting, and 0 absent.  
          
         The chairman laid out HJR 3 and recognized the Senate sponsor,  
         Senator Nelson, to explain the bill. Witnesses testifying and 
         registering on the bill are shown on the attached list.  The  
         chairman moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.    Mr. Mike Hull (TAPA) was asked  
         by Senator Nelson to come forward and answer a question.  At the  
         conclusion of Mr. Hull's response, Senator Nelson moved that HJR  
         3 be reported favorably to the Senate with the recommendation  
         that it do pass and be printed.  The motion carried with a  
         record vote of 7 ayes, 0 nay, 0 present not voting, and 2  
         absent.   
          
         There being no further business, at 4:05 p.m., Chairman Ratliff  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chairman 
          
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         Nancy B. Macken, Clerk