MINUTES 
                                           
                         SENATE COMMITTEE ON STATE AFFAIRS 
                                Tuesday, May 6, 2003 
                                     8:00 a.m. 
                            Capitol Extension Auditorium 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on State Affairs  
         was held on Tuesday, May 6, 2003, in the Capitol Extension  
         Auditorium at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBER PRESENT:                                              
                                                 MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Bill Ratliff                                                        
                                                           Senator Robert  
                                                           Duncan 
         Senator Todd Staples                                                        
                                                           Senator Frank  
                                                           Madla 
         Senator Kenneth Armbrister                                             
                                                           Senator Jane  
                                                           Nelson 
         Senator Rodney Ellis 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Chris Harris 
          
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         Chairman Ratliff called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m., and  
         continued taking  public testimony on the committee substitute  
         for HB 4.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the  
         substitute during today's hearing are shown on the attached  
         list.  For a brief period of time during the hearing, Senator  
         Ellis was in the chair. 
          
         At 10:50 a.m., the testimony of Mike Gallagher, TTLA was halted  
         and  Senator Ratliff moved that the committee stand recessed  
         until after adjournment of the Senate; without objection, it was  
         so ordered.   
          
         Note:     Pursuant to the suspension of the posting  
                   rule on the floor, the committee will meet  
                   at 8:00 a.m., Wednesday, May 7, 2003, in the  
                   Senate Chamber, to continue taking public  
                   testimony on the committee substitute for HB  
                   4.  
          
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         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chairman 
          
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         Nancy B. Macken, Clerk