MINUTES 
                                           
                         SENATE COMMITTEE ON STATE AFFAIRS 
                              Thursday, March 20, 2003 
                                     8:00 a.m. 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.028 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on State Affairs  
         was held on Thursday, March 20, 2003, in the Capitol Extension,  
         Room E1.028, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Bill Ratliff                    Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Kenneth Armbrister 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Rodney Ellis 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Chris Harris 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
                                           
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         Chairman Ratliff called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m.  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         The chairman laid out SB 513 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Lindsay, to explain the bill.  Witnesses testifying and  
         registering on the bill are shown on the attached list.  The  
         chairman moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Staples moved that SB 513  
         be reported favorably to the Senate with the recommendation that  
         it do pass and be printed.  The motion carried with a record  
         vote of 8 ayes, 0 nay, 0 present not voting, and 1 absent.   
         Pursuant to motions in writing, unanimous consent was requested  
         and granted for Senators Armbrister, Fraser, and Harris to be  
         shown voting aye (the 8 ayes include the motions in writing). 
          
         Senator Ratliff moved that the committee stand recessed until 20  
         minutes after adjournment of the Senate; without objection, it  
         was so ordered.   
          
         At 1:00 p.m., the committee reconvened.  The chairman laid out  
         SB 496 and recognized the author, Senator Janek, to explain the  
         bill.  Senator Armbrister sent up a committee substitute; the  
         chairman recognized Senator Janek to explain the difference  
  
         between the committee substitute and the bill as filed.  Senator  
         Armbrister sent up Committee Amendment 1; the chairman  
         recognized Senator Janek to explain the amendment.  Senator  
         Armbrister moved that Committee Amendment 1 be left pending to  
         await a quorum; without objection, it was so ordered.  At 1:15  
         p.m., Senator Armbrister assumed the chair.   
          
         At 1:28 p.m., Chairman Ratliff resumed the chair.  Witnesses  
         testifying and registering on the bill are shown on the attached  
         list.  At 2:32 p.m., Senator Duncan assumed the chair and  
         testimony continued.  At 2:45 p.m., Chairman Ratliff resumed the  
         chair.  The chairman stopped testimony briefly to lay out SB  
         833; the chairman then moved to leave the bill pending; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Testimony on SB 496 resumed.  At  
         3:50 p.m., Senator Staples assumed the chair.  At the conclusion  
         of testimony, Senator Staples moved to leave Committee Amendment  
         1 pending; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Staples moved to leave the Committee Substitute pending; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Staples moved that the  
         public testimony be closed; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  Senator Staples then moved that SB 496 be left  
         pending; without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         There being no further business, at 4:06 p.m., Senator Staples  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chairman.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chairman 
          
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         Nancy B. Macken, Clerk