MINUTES 
                                           
                            SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                               Monday, July 19, 2004 
                                     9:00 a.m. 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was  
         held on Monday, July 19, 2004, in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Steve Ogden                     Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini                Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Kip Averitt                     Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos              Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Royce West 
         Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         The Committee heard invited testimony on the Committee's interim  
         charges relating to Major Health-related Caseload and Cost  
         Estimates, and Revisiting the Rising Healthcare Cost Study of  
         the 77th Legislature.  Witnesses testifying and registering on  
         the interim charges are shown on the attached list.   
          
         Senator Whitmire moved adoption of the Committee minutes from  
         the previous hearings held on June 7, 2004, and June 8, 2004.   
         Senator Zaffirini seconded the motion; without objection, it was  
         so ordered. 
          
         At 11:15 a.m. Senator Ogden moved that the Committee stand  
         recessed until 11:30 a.m.; without objection it was so ordered. 
          
         At 11:30 a.m. the Committee reconvened. 
          
         The Committee heard invited testimony on the Committee's interim  
         charge relating to the Nature and Use of Local Funds.  Witnesses  
         testifying and registering on the interim charge are shown on  
         the attached list.   
          
         There being no further business, at 1:08 p.m. Senator Ogden  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed until 2:00 p.m. that  
         afternoon, July 19, 2004.  Without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
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         Senator Steve Ogden, Chair 
          
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         Amy Jeter, Clerk