MINUTES 
                                           
                            SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                            Wednesday, January 29, 2003 
                                     9:00 a.m. 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was  
         held on Wednesday, January 29, 2003, in the Capitol Extension,  
         Room E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Teel Bivins                     None 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Senator Kip Averitt 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
         Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Steve Ogden 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Royce West 
         Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
                                           
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         The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:06 a.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         The Chair gave introductory remarks and welcomed the Members to  
         the Senate Finance Committee. 
          
         Members of the Committee introduced their staffs. 
          
         The Chair introduced Committee staff.   
          
         The Chair introduced staff from the Lieutenant Governor's  
         Office, Governor's Office, Comptroller of Public Accounts, State  
         Auditor's Office, and Legislative Budget Board.  
          
         The Chair laid out the proposed Committee Rules.  Senator  
         Whitmire moved to adopt the rules;  without objection the rules  
         were adopted. 
          
         The Chair recognized the following witnesses: 
          
         Billy Hamilton, Office of the Comptroller of Pubic Accounts,  
         gave testimony on 2003 and 2004/2005 Revenue Estimate. 
          
         James Lebas, Office of the Comptroller of Public Accounts, gave  
         testimony on 2003 and 2004/2005 Revenue Estimate. 
          
         Lieutenant Governor Dewhurst gave his congratulations to the  
         Members of the Committee for co-authoring the appropriations  
         bill.  He gave his support to the Committee and expressed how  
         proud he was of the Members. 
         Testimony from Billy Hamilton and James Lebas continued. 
          
         At 10:50 a.m. the Chair moved that the Committee stand in recess  
         until one hour after adjournment of the Senate.  There was no  
         objection. 
  
         At 12:38 p.m. the Committee reconvened. 
          
         Testimony from Billy Hamilton and James Lebas continued. 
          
         John Keel, Director of the Legislative Budget Board, gave  
         testimony on budget overview and zero-based budgeting and the  
         "building blocks" approach. 
          
         At 1:27 p.m. Senator Zaffirini assumed the chair.   
          
         At 1:37 p.m. Senator Bivins resumed the chair.   
          
         Ursula Parks, Manager of Public Education for the Legislative  
         Budget Board, gave testimony on the source of new federal  
         dollars available to Texas. 
          
         Anita D'Souza, General Counsel for the Legislative Budget Board,  
         gave testimony to clarify the estimated appropriations from the  
         tobacco settlement endowments.  
          
         The Chair announced the Committee would meet again on February  
         10, 2003.   
          
         There being no further business, at 2:20 p.m. Senator Bivins  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Teel Bivins, Chair 
          
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         Stephanie Hoover, Clerk