MINUTES 
                                            
                             SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                             Wednesday, January 17, 2001 
                                      8:00 a.m. 
                            Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                            
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     Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule 11.18, a public  
     hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was held on Wednesday, January  
     17, 2001, in the Capitol Extension, Room E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
      
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     MEMBERS PRESENT:                            MEMBERS ABSENT: 
     Senator Rodney Ellis                        Senator John Whitmire 
     Senator Chris Harris                         
     Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
     Senator Robert Duncan 
     Senator Troy Fraser 
     Senator Tom Haywood 
     Senator Mike Jackson 
     Senator Jon Lindsay 
     Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr. 
     Senator Steve Ogden 
     Senator Carlos Truan 
     Senator Judith Zaffirini 
                                            
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     The chair called the meeting to order at 8:10 a.m.  There being a quorum  
     present, the following business was transacted:   
      
     The following members arrived after the roll was called:   
     Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
     Senator Robert Duncan 
     Senator Tom Haywood 
     Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr. 
     Senator Steve Ogden 
     Senator Carlos Truan 
      
     The Chair recognized the following witnesses to provide testimony  
     regarding Legislative Budget Board (LBB) recommendations: 
      
          Texas Board of Medical Examiners 
          Mark Wiles, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Wallace Lankford, Director of Finance 
              Spoke to the overall requests and exceptional items in requested  
              budget.  Answered questions from the Committee.   
          F.M. Langley, D.V.M., M.D., J.D., Executive Director 
               Answered questions from Committee members. 
      
     Senator Harris moved to suspend testimony from the Texas Board of Medical  
     Examiners until there are Board Members present. Senator Fraser seconded  
     the motion.  There being no objection, the motion passed. 
                
          Public Utility Commission 
  
          Kimberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Pat Wood, Chairman 
              Spoke to the overall budget requests and issues pertaining to  
              progress in the last six years. Answered  many questions from the  
              Committee. 
          Lane Lanford, Executive Director 
              Spoke to a couple of riders as laid out by the LBB.  Answered  
              questions from the Committee. 
      
          Office of Public Utility Counsel 
          Kimberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst          
          Suzi McClellan, Public Counsel 
              Gave an overview of what the counsel does and to items not  
              recommended in the requested budget.  Answered questions from  
              members 
      
          Health Professions Council 
          Mark Wiles, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Kathy Thomas, Chair of the Health Professions Council &  Ex.  
     Director, Board of Nurse Examiners 
              Gave the Committee a brief history and overview of what the  
              council does.  Spoke to the amended request items in proposed  
              budget.  Answered questions. 
                
          Registering, but not testifying: 
          Charles Horton, Administrative Officer 
      
          Texas Board of Chiropractic Examiners 
          Mark Wiles, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Gary K. Cain, Executive Director 
               Introduced Minerva Hall, Financial Officer and Dr. Cynthia  
     Vaughn, Chairman 
          Cynthia Vaughn, D.C., Chairman 
              Gave an overview of what the Board does.  Spoke to the budget  
              requests, the salary increase for their Executive Director and  
              the need for additional office space.  Answered questions 
      
          State Board of Dental Examiners 
          Mark Wiles, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Jeffry Hill, Executive Director  
              Spoke to all of the exceptional items in the proposed request.   
              Answered questions from the Committee. 
           
          David Olson, D.D.S,  Board President 
               Spoke in support of the additional requests above LBB's  
     recommendations.   
          James Kennedy, D.D.S., Board Secretary  
               Spoke to exceptional item #1 for a dental consultant. 
      
          Registering, but not testifying; 
          Carol McPherson, Director of Administration, State Board of Dental  
     Examiners 
      
          Board of Nurse Examiners 
          Daniel Estrada, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Linda Round, President of Board 
              Spoke to the requested budget and exceptional items.  The Board  
          
              has agreed to any fee increase, if needed, to fund the  
              exceptional items.  Answered questions from Committee. 
      
          Registering, but not testifying 
          Kathy Thomas, Executive Director 
          Mark Majek, Director, Operations 
      
     At 10:49 a.m. Senator Ellis moved that the committee stand recessed until  
     45 minutes after adjournment of the Senate; without objection, it was so  
     ordered.   
      
     At 12:30 p.m. the committee reconvened.   
      
     Testimony continued with the following: 
      
          Texas State Board of Pharmacy 
          Ed Robertson, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Bill Pitman, President of the Board 
               Spoke to the salary increase for the Executive Director.   
           Gay Dodson, Executive Director 
              Reviewed the materials given to the members.  Spoke to the  
              requested budget.  Answered questions from the Committee. 
      
          Executive Council of Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy  
     Examiners 
          Mark Wiles, LBB Budget Analyst 
          John Maline, Executive Director of the Executive Council 
              Explained exactly what the Executive Council is, what it does,  
              and how it is structured.  Introduced other members with him.   
              Spoke to the requested budget and the one exceptional item. 
          Jean E. Polichino, Member of the Executive Council 
               Spoke to the factors that have impacted the Physical and  
     Occupation Therapist in the state.           Mary R. Daillong, Member of  
     Executive Council 
               Spoke to the exceptional item of merit increases for employees.   
     Answered questions. 
      
          Texas  Optometry Board 
          Ed Robertson, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Lois Ewald, Executive Director 
               Spoke to the exceptional items being requested in the proposed  
     budget.  Answered questions. 
          Kevin DeWolfe, O.D., Chairman 
               Spoke to the high turnover rate for employees and the travel  
     cap.  Answered questions. 
      
          Texas Board of Examiners of Psychologists 
          Kymberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst 
          David Rudd, Ph.D., Chair 
              Gave an overview of the board's purpose.  Spoke about the  
              difficulty of  fulfilling it's mission.  Several reasons for the  
              difficulty are the increased mandates and the high turnover of  
              employees.  Answered questions. 
          Sherry L. Lee, Executive Director 
               Spoke to the individual exceptional items in their requested  
     budget.  Answered questions. 
      
          State Securities Board 
          Daniel Estrada, LBB Budget Analyst 
  
          Steve Hopson, Sunset Commission 
          Denise Voigt Crawford, Commissioner 
              Gave an overview of the boards duties and the size of the  
              securities market.  Spoke to the need for increased salaries.  
              Answered questions. 
      
          Registering, but not testifying: 
          Tom Spradlin, Director, Information Resources and Planning 
      
          Board of Vocational Nurse Examiners 
          Daniel Estrada, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Mary M. Strange, Executive Director 
               Gave an overview and spoke to exceptional items in their  
     proposed budget.  Answered questions. 
      
          Texas Racing Commission 
          Heidi Lopez-Cepero, LBB Analyst 
          Treva Boyd, Board Member 
              Gave and overview of the past year and needs for the future.   
              Spoke to the exceptional item of a merit increase for the  
              Executive Director.  Answered questions. 
          Paula C. Flowerday, Executive Director 
               Spoke to exceptional items not covered in the LBB  
     recommendations.  Answered questions. 
      
          Registering, but not testifying: 
          Jean Cook, Deputy Director for Administration 
          Tim Craig, Chief Financial Officer 
      
          Texas Real Estate Commission        
          Kymberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Michael Brodie, Chairman 
               Spoke to the five exceptional items they are requesting, and  
     modifications to two riders.   
          Wayne Thorburn, Administrator 
              Spoke in detail of the exceptional items being requested in the  
              budget and the modifications to the riders.   
      
          Texas Appraiser Licensing and Certification Board 
          Kymberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Renil C. Liner, Commissioner 
              Introduced Debra Runyan and another board member.  Spoke to the  
              exceptional items in proposed budget.  Answered questions. 
          Debra Runyan, Chairman of the Board 
               Gave a brief overview of the duties of the board. 
      
          Texas State Board of Podiatric Medical Examiners 
          Kymberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst 
          Allen Hymus, Executive Director 
              Introduced members in attendance. Gave overview of what the board  
              does.  Answered questions from the committee. 
          Sandra Donahoe, SOA (Office of the State Auditor) 
      
     The Committee decided to end the testimony from the Texas State Board of  
     Podiatric Medical Examiners until the Office of the State Auditor could  
     confirm that all recommendations from their audit had been complied with.   
     They will be called at such time as that report is submitted to the  
     Finance Committee. 
  
          Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation 
          Daniel Estrada, LBB Budget Analyst 
          William Kuntz, Executive Director 
               Answered questions regarding the imaging system and other  
     questions asked by Committee. 
          Father William Fowler, Chairman 
              Spoke to exceptional items in the proposed budget and especially  
              the salary increase for the Executive Director.  Answered  
              questions. 
      
          Board of Tax Professional Examiners 
          Ed Robertson, LBB Budget Analyst 
          David E. Montoya, Executive Director 
               Gave a general overview of the agency.  Answered questions. 
      
          Texas Board of Professional Land Surveying 
          Kymberley Maddox, LBB Budget Analyst   
          Sandy Smith, Executive Director 
               Spoke to exceptional items being requested in the proposed  
     budget.  Answered questions. 
          Raul Wong, Jr., Chairman of the Board 
               Spoke to the issue of  board members doing investigation work.   
     Answered questions. 
      
          Registering, but not testifying:    
          Douglas W. Turner, Board Member 
      
     There being no further business, Senator Zaffirini moved that the  
     Committee stand recessed until 8:00 a.m., Monday, January 22, 2001.   
     Without objection, it was so ordered.   
      
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     Senator Rodney Ellis, Chair 
      
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     Myra J. Schmitt, Clerk