MINUTES 
                                           
                    SENATE COMMITTEE ON BORDER AFFAIRS - SPECIAL 
                             Tuesday, January 11, 2000 
                                     10:00 a.m. 
                         Texas A&M International University 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Border  
         Affairs - Special was held on Tuesday, January 11, 2000, at  
         Texas A&M International University in Laredo. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr.                Senator Teel Bivins 
         Senator David Sibley                    Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Carlos Truan 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini 
                                           
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         The Senate Committee on Border Affairs and the Senate Committee  
         on State Affairs held a joint hearing.  Senator Shapiro and  
         Senator Lucio chaired the Joint Hearing. 
          
         Senator Shapiro and Senator Lucio called the meeting to order at  
         10:05 a.m.  There being a quorum present, the following business  
         was transacted:   
          
         Senator Lucio asked for approval of the revised Border Affairs  
         minutes from the previous hearings on November 18 and 19, 1999.   
         Senator Zaffirini moved approval of the minutes;  without  
         objection, the minutes were approved.  
          
         Senator Shapiro and Senator Lucio gave opening remarks. 
          
         Members of the Senate Committee on State Affairs and the Senate  
         Committee on Border Affairs gave opening remarks.  
          
         Mayor Elizabeth "Betty" Flores gave welcoming  remarks on behalf  
         of the City of Laredo and began the invited testimony part of  
         the hearing. 
          
         Dr. Charles Jennett, representing Texas A&M International  
         University, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. David Laney, representing the Texas Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
         Mr. Charles W. Heald, representing the Texas Department of  
  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Fedrick Werner, representing the U.S. Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Rafael Garcia, representing the City of Laredo, testified on  
         interim charge #1. 
          
         At 12:30 p.m. Senator Shapiro announced that the Committee would  
         stand at ease until 1:15 p.m.  There was no objection. 
          
         At 1:20 p.m. the meeting reconvened. 
          
         Mr. Rick Maldonado, representing the Texas Ports Association -  
         13 Ports, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Mark Wiles, representing the Legislative Budget Board,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. John Keel, representing the Legislative Budget Board,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Jesse Ancira, representing the Office of the Texas  
         Comptroller, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Senator Lucio requested that the LBB provide information  
         regarding how much Texas has paid in penalties for failure to  
         comply with certain highway provisions such as clean air  
         compliance and safety. 
          
         Senator Shapiro requested that TxDOT address certain issues that  
         the LBB report entitled "Highway Construction in the Texas  
         Border Region" did not address.  These issues relate to the  
         methodology that TxDOT uses to determine allocations of funds,  
         the adequacy of the proposed funds and the assumptions that were  
         made in the course of the analysis.  
          
         Mr. Jerry Martin, representing the Texas Railroad Commission,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Richard Martinez, representing Charles Mathews - Railroad  
         Commissioner, testified on interim charge #1.   
          
         Mr. Robert L. Nichols, representing the Texas Transportation  
         Commission and the Texas Department of Transportation, testified  
         on interim charge #1. 
         Mr. Christopher Aadnesen, representing the Texas Mexico Railway,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. David Fulton, representing the Texas Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini asked the witness to research how TxDOT can  
         help improve scheduled airline service in Laredo and other  
         cities.  
  
         Mr. John Helsley, representing the Rail District Advisors,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Dr. Steve Roop, representing the Texas Transportation Institute,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Senator Shapiro and Senator Shapleigh requested that there be a  
         panel available at the next hearing to discuss rail issues,  
         specifically using rail as opposed to trucks. 
          
         Mr. Pete Winstead, representing the Texas Turnpike Authority,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Carlos Benavides, representing self, testified on interim  
         charge #1. 
          
         Ms. Suzanne Hansen-Alford, representing the Texas A&M  
         International University - NAFTA Center, testified on interim  
         charge #1. 
          
         Mayor Elizabeth "Betty" Flores, representing the City of Laredo,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. David Fulton, representing the Texas Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Jose Flores, representing the City of Laredo, testified on  
         interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Rene Gonzalez, representing the Texas Border Infrastructure  
         Coalition, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Mario Alvarado, representing the El Metro Transportation  
         System, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Jorge Verduzco, representing the I-69 Coalition, testified  
         on interim charge #1. 
         Mr. Luis Ramirez, representing the Texas Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. Keith Selman, representing the City of Laredo, testified on  
         interim charge #1. 
          
         Mr. James Bass, representing the Texas Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         At 6:30 p.m. Senator Lucio assumed the chair.    
          
         Ms. Kate McVey, representing the Zapata County News and self,  
         testified on interim charge #1. 
          
         There being no further business, at 6:50 p.m. Senator Lucio  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed  subject to the call of  
         the Chair; without objection, it was so ordered.    
  
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         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr., Chair 
          
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         Stephanie R. Hoover, Clerk