MINUTES 
          
                       SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES 
                               Wed., Feb. 10, 1999 
                                    8:30 a.m. 
                                 Senate Chamber 
          
                                      ***** 
          
         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Human  
         Services was held on Wed., Feb. 10, 1999, in the Senate  
         Chamber at Austin, Texas.   
          
                                      ***** 
          
         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini, Chair         Senator David Bernsen 
         Senator John Carona, Vice Chair 
         Senator Mario Gallegos, Jr. 
         Senator Chris Harris 
          
                                      ***** 
          
         The chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted.   
          
         The chair laid out the Feb. 3, 1999, minutes and called for  
         revisions.  There being none, Senator Carona moved their  
         approval.  There being no objection, the motion prevailed by  
         unanimous consent. 
          
         At 8:32 a.m. Senator Carona assumed presiding duties. 
          
         The chair laid out SB 15 by Zaffirini, relating to the penalty  
         of certain offenses concerning the sale of cigarettes, and  
         recognized the author to explain the bill. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness and  
         provided oral testimony on SB 15: 
          
              Robin Herskowitz, senior policy analyst, Comptroller of  
              Public Accounts, 111 East 17th Street, Austin, Texas  
              78714. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness on SB  
         15, but did not testify: 
          
              Philip Huang, chief, Bureau of Disease and Injury  
              Prevention, Texas Department of Health, 1100 West 49th  
              Street, Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of SB 15, but did  
         not testify: 
          
              Pamela Dillon, director, Governmental Relations, American  
         Lung Association of  Texas, 
              Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
              David Reynolds, manager, Public Affairs, American Heart  
              Association - Texas Affiliate, P.O. Box 15186, Austin,  
              Texas 78761. 
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to SB 15, the chair  
         closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini moved that SB 15 be reported to the Senate  
         with the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  The  
         motion prevailed by a vote of 4 "ayes" and 0 "nays." 
          
         The chair laid out SB 18 by Zaffirini, relating to the  
         authority of the attorney general to recover a civil penalty  
         from certain nursing homes and related institutions. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini sent up a committee substitute and moved its  
         adoption.  There being no objection, the motion prevailed by  
         unanimous consent. 
          
         The following persons registered as resource witnesses on the  
         committee substitute for SB 18, but did not testify: 
          
              Eric M. Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714.  
          
              Mark Gold, director of policy, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              Jim Lehrman, associate commissioner, Long-Term Care  
              Regulatory, Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West  
              51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              J.B. McReynolds, associate commissioner, Legal Services,  
              Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West 51st Street,  
              Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              Paul Carmona, chief, Elder Law Division, Office of the  
              Attorney General, P.O. Box 12548, Austin, Texas 78711. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of the committee  
         substitute for SB 18, but did not testify: 
          
              Teresa Aguirre, legislative assistant, Texas Association  
              of Homes and Services for the Aging, 2205 Hancock Drive,  
              Austin, Texas 78756. 
  
              Beth Ferris, president, Texas Advocates for Nursing Home  
              Residents, 500 East Anderson Lane, #234W, Austin, Texas  
              78752. 
          
              Ken Kramer, state legislative committee, AARP, 98 San  
              Jacinto Blvd., Suite 750, Austin, Texas 78701. 
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to the committee  
         substitute for SB 18, the chair closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini moved that SB 18 be reported to the Senate  
         with the recommendation that it do not pass, but that the  
         committee substitute adopted in lieu thereof do pass and be  
         printed.  The motion prevailed with a vote of 4 "ayes" and 0  
         "nays." 
          
         The chair laid out SB 380 by Zaffirini, relating to the  
         attorney general's authority to bring a suit against  
         intermediate care facilities for the mentally retarded, and  
         recognized the author to explain the bill. 
          
         The following persons registered as resource witnesses, but  
         did not testify: 
          
              Eric M. Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              Mark Gold, director of policy, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714.  
          
              Jim Lehrman, associate commissioner, Long-Term Care  
              Regulatory, Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West  
              51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714.  
          
              J.B. McReynolds, associate commissioner, Legal Services,  
              Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West 51st Street,  
              Austin, Texas 78714.  
              Paul Carmona, chief, Elder Law Division, Office of the  
              Attorney General, P.O. Box 12548, Austin, Texas 78711. 
          
         The following person registered in support of SB 380, but did  
         not testify: 
          
              Ken Kramer, state legislative committee, AARP, 98 San  
              Jacinto Blvd., Suite 750, Austin, Texas 78701. 
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to SB 380, the chair  
         closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini moved that SB 380 be reported to the Senate  
         with the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  The  
         motion prevailed with a vote of 4 "ayes" and 0 "nays." 
          
         The chair laid out SB 19 by Senator Zaffirini, relating to the  
         renewal of certain initial probationary licenses granted for a  
         nursing or convalescent home or related institution, and  
         recognized the author to explain the bill. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini sent up a committee substitute and moved its  
         adoption.  There being no objection, the motion prevailed by  
         unanimous consent. 
          
         The following persons registered as resource witnesses on the  
         committee substitute for SB 19 and provided oral testimony: 
          
              Eric M. Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              Jim Lehrman, associate commissioner, Long-Term Care  
              Regulatory, Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West  
              51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
         The following persons registered as resource witnesses on the  
         committee substitute for SB 19, but did not testify: 
          
              Mark Gold, director of policy, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714.  
          
              J.B. McReynolds, associate commissioner, Legal Services,  
              Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West 51st Street,  
              Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of the committee  
         substitute for SB 19, but did not testify: 
          
              Teresa Aguirre, legislative assistant, Texas Association  
              of Homes and Services for the Aging, 2205 Hancock Drive,  
              Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
              Beth Ferris, president, Texas Advocates for Nursing Home  
              Residents, 500 East Anderson Lane, #234W, Austin, Texas  
              78752. 
          
              Ken Kramer, state legislative committee, AARP, 98 San  
              Jacinto Blvd., Suite 750, Austin, Texas 78701. 
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to the committee  
         substitute for SB 19, the chair closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini moved that SB 19 be reported to the Senate  
         with the recommendation that it do not pass, but that the  
  
         committee substitute adopted in lieu thereof do pass and be  
         printed.  The motion prevailed with a vote of 3 "ayes" and 1  
         "present not voting." 
          
         The chair laid out SB 109 by Senator Zaffirini, relating to  
         reports of certain conduct or conditions in nursing homes and  
         related institutions, and recognized the author to explain the  
         bill. 
          
         The following persons registered as resource witnesses on SB  
         109, but did not testify: 
          
              Eric M. Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              Mark Gold, director of policy, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
              Jim Lehrman, associate commissioner, Long-Term Care  
              Regulatory, Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West  
              51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714.  
          
              J.B. McReynolds, associate commissioner, Legal Services,  
              Texas Department of Human Services, 701 West 51st Street,  
              Austin, Texas 78714. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of SB 109, but did  
         not testify: 
          
              Teresa Aguirre, legislative assistant, Texas Association  
              of Homes and Services for the Aging, 2205 Hancock Drive,  
              Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
              Beth Ferris, president, Texas Advocates for Nursing Home  
              Residents, 500 East Anderson Lane, #234W, Austin, Texas  
              78752.  
          
              Ken Kramer, state legislative committee, AARP, 98 San  
              Jacinto Blvd., Suite 750, Austin, Texas 78701.        
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to SB 109, the chair  
         closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini moved that SB 109 be reported to the Senate  
         with the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  The  
         motion prevailed with a vote of 4 "ayes" and 0 "nays." 
          
         At 8:50 a.m. Senator Zaffirini resumed presiding duties. 
          
         With no other business to come before the committee and upon a  
         motion by Senator Carona, the chair recessed the committee by  
         unanimous consent at 8:51 a.m., subject to the call of the  
         chair. 
          
         ____________________________________     
         Senator Judith Zaffirini, Chair               
          
         ____________________________________ 
         Scott Caffey, Committee Clerk