MINUTES 
                                           
                         SENATE COMMITTEE ON REDISTRICTING 
                             Friday, September 22, 2000 
                                     10:30 a.m. 
                                   Senate Chamber 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Redistricting  
         was held on Friday, September 22, 2000, in the Senate Chamber at  
         Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Troy Fraser                     None 
         Senator Mario Gallegos, Jr. 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Mike Jackson 
         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr. 
         Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Steve Ogden 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Royce West 
                                           
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         Co-chair Fraser called the meeting to order at 10:55 a.m.  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         Co-chair Fraser moved adoption of the minutes from the previous  
         hearing held on August 25, 2000; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  
          
         Co-chair Fraser and Senator Barrientos welcomed everyone to the  
         Austin regional hearing.  Chairman Jones announced that they  
         were working on putting together a meeting to allow the  
         Congressional delegation to address the committees. 
          
         Senator Barrientos made a parliamentary inquiry as to whether he  
         would be in order to make a motion recommending that the  
         President and Congress designate the adjusted census figures,  
         based on statistical sampling, be the official census figures  
         under Public Law 94-171.  Co-chair Fraser advised Senator  
         Barrientos that his motion would be in order. 
          
         Then Senator Barrientos made a motion recommending that the  
         President and Congress designate the adjusted census figures,  
         based on statistical sampling, be the official census figures  
  
         under Public Law 94-171.  Co-Chair Gallegos seconded the motion. 
          
         Senator Duncan laid out a substitute motion to Senator  
         Barrientos's motion.  He moved to postpone addressing whether  
         adjusted (sampled) or unadjusted (enumerated) figures should be  
         used for the purpose of redistricting until the official figures  
         are released in spring of 2001.  Senator Duncan's substitute  
         motion was seconded by Senator Ogden. 
          
         Co-Chair Gallegos raised a parliamentary inquiry asking whether  
         Senator Duncan's substitute motion was on the same subject as  
         Senator Barrientos's original motion. Co-Chair Fraser ruled that  
         Senator Duncan's substitute motion was germane to the original  
         motion.  
          
         Senator Duncan's substitute motion passed with a vote of 6 "ayes"  
         and 5 "nays".  Senator Barrientos's motion as substituted passed  
         with a vote of 6 "ayes" and 5 "nays". 
          
         Senator Barrientos asked to be recognized for a second motion.   
         Co-chair Fraser agreed to recognize Senator Barrientos at the  
         conclusion of public testimony.  At which time, Senator  
         Barrientos withdrew his request to be recognized. 
          
         The following witnesses testified on Redistricting: 
          
           Beck, B.M. (self), Killeen                                        
                                                                             
           Burrows, Jon (Bell County Judge), Belton                          
                                                                             
           Carlson, Pat (Tarrant County Republican Party), Grapevine         
                                                                             
           Carroll, Jimmy (self), Temple                                     
                                                                             
           Christie, Gaylon (Killeen Chamber of Commerce), Harker Heights    
                                                                         
           Connell, Ted (self), Killeen                                  
                                                                         
           English, George E. (Mayor Pro Tem City of Temple), Temple     
                                                                         
           Fairbrother, William (Chairman, Williamson County Republican  
                       Party), Round Rock                                
                                                                         
           Gibson, Lester (McLennan County Commissioner), Waco           
                                                                         
           Howard, Robert (Travis County Libertarian Party), Austin      
                                                                         
           Jaecks, Dale (Milam County Commissioner), Rockdale            
                                                                         
           Klussmann, Wallace (self), Fredericksburg                     
                                                                                                                                            
           Laster, E. Jean (Justice of the Peace), Waco                      
                                                                              
           Latham, Fred (self), Killeen              
                                                                              
           Manning, Joan (Copperas Cove ISD Board of Trustees), Copperas     
                        Cove                                                  
                                                                              
           Marshall, Keifer (Mayor of Temple Texas), Temple                  
                                                                              
           Masset, Royal (Texans for Fair Redistricting), Austin              
                                                                              
           Mikus Jr., Jerry J. (self), Pflugerville                          
                                                                              
           Mills, T.J. (self), Killeen                                       
                                                                              
           Oldham, Dale (Republican National Committee), Washington D.C.     
                                                                                                                                             
           Overbey, Kirk (self), Austin                                      
                                                                              
           Prewitt, W.A. "Buck" (self), Salado                               
                                                                              
           Reinhardt, Chuck (self), Harker Heights                           
                                                                              
           Sager, Alan (Travis County Republican Party, Chairman), Austin    
                                                                              
           Sari, Ilona (self), Austin                                        
                                                                              
           Sparks, Ray (Mayor for the City of Hamilton and Hamilton          
                        County), Hamilton                                     
                                                                              
           Stem, Robert (District Judge-Falls County), Marlin                
                                                                                                                                              
           Summers, Frank (Milam County Judge), Cameron                      
                                                                                       
            Vernon, Alexander (self), Killeen                                 
                                                                                       
            Villarreal, Fernando (Justice of the Peace Precinct#8  
         McLennan    
                                 County), Waco                                         
                                                                                       
            Willsey, Russ (City of West, Mart, and McGregor), West            
                                                                                       
            Wright, H.T. (Caldwell County Judge), Lockhart               
                                                                                       
            The following people registered, but not did not testify:   
                                                  
            Benson, David E. (Mayor Johnny Isbell, City of Pasadena),         
                                 Pasadena                                              
                                                                                       
            Carssow, Jim (Cedar Park Chamber of Commerce), Cedar Park                                                                         
               
            Clennan, Kirk D. (Cedar Park Economic and Community            
                         Development Corporation), Cedar Park               
                                                                            
            Dean, Harold (Cedar Park Chamber of Commerce), Cedar Park      
                                                                                                                                            
         There being no further business, at 3:00 p.m. Co-chair Fraser  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         ______________________ 
         Senator Troy Fraser, Co-chair 
          
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         Senator Mario Gallegos, Co-chair 
          
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         Tara Cowen Rejino, Clerk