MINUTES 
             
               SENATE INTERIM COMMITTEE ON GANGS AND JUVENILE JUSTICE 
                             Thursday, November 6, 1997 
                                     9:00 a.m. 
                         Dallas County Commissioners Court 
             
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            Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
            11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Interim Committee on  
            Gangs and Juvenile Justice was held on Thursday, November  
            6, 1997 in the  Dallas County Commissioners Court, in  
            Dallas, Texas.   
             
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            MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
            Senator Royce West                       
            Senator Moncrief 
            Senator Robert Duncan 
            Senator Chris Harris 
            Senator Jon Lindsay 
             
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            The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m.  There  
            being a quorum present, the following business was  
            transacted.   
             
            Senator West offered the committee minutes from the October  
            2nd, committee hearing.  Senator Duncan moved adoption of  
            the minutes.  There being no objection, the motion  
            prevailed. 
             
            Senators West, Lindsay, Duncan, Harris and Moncrief made  
            opening remarks. 
              
            The following witnesses testified before the committee: 
             
            Chief Ben E. Click, Chief of the Dallas Police  
            Department--Chief Click gave an overview of the Dallas gang  
            problem.  Chief Click recommended: 1.) a statewide  
            definition for a gang member; 2.) sentence enhancement for  
            violent or property crimes, possession of a firearm,  
            committing a crime within 1000  feet of a school;  3.)  
            enhancement to a Class A Misdemeanor for the recruitment of  
            a gang member; 4.)  forfeiture of a vehicle that was used  
            in a drive by shooting; 5.) give school districts the  
            authority to deal with gang members; 6.) place a code on  
            the record of an individual that would identify that the  
            particular individual has committed a gang related crime;  
            7.) give the local police department notice when a gang  
  
            member is released from jail; 8) create a gang prosecutor;  
            9) create more effective prevention and intervention  
            programs.   
             
            Judge Thomas G. Jones, Justice of the Peace-Precinct 7,  
            Dallas--Judge Jones stated that he has seen his truancy  
            cases rising in the past few years.  Judge Thomas stated  
            that he believed that truancy is a good indicator that  
            there are problems at school as well as home, which could  
            in turn lead to gang activity.  Judge Jones recommended: 1)  
            before and after school programs; and 2) a collaborative  
            effort between schools and Justices of the Peace. 
             
            Student Advisory Committee--Christina Woodard spoke about  
            the failures of the programs in the school system.  She  
            also spoke about what is needed to help students stay out  
            of gangs.  Marcus Brown spoke about the need for character  
            building classes in the school system, preferably beginning  
            with pre-kindergarten and kindergarten children.  Jou Jou  
            Hanna spoke about the need for a place for students to go  
            after school and on the weekends, ie. neighborhood  
            recreation centers.  Aleesha Pinnock spoke about the need  
            for peer mentoring programs in the school system.  Karecia  
            Burklay stressed the need for parental involvement classes.   
            The classes should involve parents as well as children. 
             
            Ed Daniels and Stan Ferguson, Ft. Worth Police  
            Department-Sergeant Daniels and Stan Ferguson addressed law  
            enforcement needs to help combat the gang problem.  They  
            recommended: 1.) a uniformed definition of a gang member;  
            2.) increased funding for prevention and intervention  
            programs; 3.) an offense allowing co-conspirator testimony  
            to prosecute a perpetrator; 4.) enact a statute that makes  
            membership by a juvenile in a gang an offense of delinquent  
            conduct; 5.) prohibit the transfer of weapons within city  
            limits; 5.) maintain gang intelligence information for more  
            than 2 years (keep intelligence for at least 5 years). 
             
            Gary Arey, Assistant District Attorney Dallas County--Mr.  
            Arey spoke about: 1.) the use of guns in commission of  
            crimes; 2.) the relationship between gangs and the  
            commission of capital murder; and  3.) the Boston project.   
            Mr. Arey recommendation's were: 1.) statutory confinement  
            of six months for all juveniles who posses firearms; 2.)  
            increase the progressive sanctions penalty for possession  
            of a firearm to a level five or six; 3.) enhance the  
            penalty for membership in a gang; 4.) create educational  
            courses to teach students the dangers of firearms; 5.) an  
            overall use of enhancements to deter juveniles from joining  
            and continuing to be members of a gang. 
             
            Terry Barlow, Tarrant County District Attorney--Mr. Barlow  
            spoke about parental responsibility and the need to  
            identify at-risk youth.  Mr. Barlow recommended: 1.) the  
            committee look at the Boston project; 2.) enacting a  
  
            statute that makes it a crime to carry a weapon in the  
            passenger compartment of a car. 
             
            Carey Cockerell, Director, Tarrant County Juvenile  
            Services--Mr. Cockerell spoke about the type of referrals  
            Tarrant County Juvenile Services are receiving.  Mr.  
            Cockerell stated that referrals have gone up in general,  
            but violent crime referrals have gone down.  His rationale  
            for the decrease in violent crime referrals was: 1.) the  
            "Coming Up Program"; 2.) the automated gang information  
            system; and 3.) Community-based programs (ie. the Buffalo  
            Soldier Program).  Mr. Cockerell's recommendations  
            included: 1.) increased funding for all staffing levels;  
            2.) use of programs like the "Wrap Around Program" which  
            uses community-based citizens as mentors.  These types of  
            programs should be allowed to use the monies they receive  
            to customize their outreach to their specific needs.   
             
            Mike Griffiths, Dallas County Juvenile Department; Vicki  
            Spriggs, Director of the Juvenile Probation Commission;  
            Thomas Chapmond, Department of Protective and Regulator  
            Services; Danny Meek, Collin County Juvenile Probation  
            Services--all spoke about a collaborative effort regarding  
            "Wrap Around Services".  The parties would like to see the  
            pooling of funds for a collaborative effort between the  
            Juvenile Probation Commission and the Department of  
            Protective and Regulatory Services.  Mr. Griffiths  
            recommended that any system the committee ultimately  
            recommends be community-based. 
             
            Judge Cheryl Lee Shannon, Dallas County Juvenile Court  
            Judge, 305th District Court--Judge Shannon spoke about: 1.)  
            the need to identify at-risk youth as early as possible;  
            2.) the need for prevention and intervention programs.   
            Judge Shannon recommended that the committee look at  
            programs that are working across the state in order to  
            replicate them on a broader scale. 
             
            Gracie Stearns and Patsy Steele, Tarrant County Community  
            Youth Development Directors for the 76106 zip code--Ms.  
            Stearns and Ms. Steele stated the key to the success of  
            their program was: 1.) collaboration; 2.) community  
            involvement; and 3.) team work. 
             
            Libbie Lee, Dallas County Community Youth Development  
            Director for the 75216 zip code--Ms. Lee gave an overview  
            of the programs she provides in her area.  Ms. Lee also  
            gave examples of the successes her CYD program has seen. 
             
            Pam Johnson, Director Grayson County Juvenile Alternatives,  
            STARS program--Ms. Johnson gave an overview of the Grayson  
            County Juvenile Alternatives program.  Examples included:  
            1.) mentoring programs; 2.) support systems; 3.) special  
            events; 4.) "Challenge" (a day long activity program). 
             
            Lee Schimmel, Promise House/ STARS contractor--Ms. Schimmel  
            gave an overview of what services Promise House provides to  
            at risk youth.  Ms. Schimmel recommended the use of Family  
            Impact Centers.  Family Impact Centers are a collaboration  
            between school districts, nonprofit organizations, and  
            local businesses to help meet the needs of the community. 
             
            Cindy Honey, Bridge Emergency Youth Services, STARS  
            contractor--Ms. Honey gave an overview of what services she  
            provides to at risk youth. 
             
            Russell Brammer, City Service Program/City of Plano, STARS  
            contractor--Mr. Brammer gave an overview of the services he  
            provides for at risk youth.  He recommended that STARS  
            contractors work with corporations to raise additional  
            funds. 
             
            Elise Douglas, Family Haven/Sulphur Springs, STARS  
            contractor--Ms. Davis gave an overview of the type of  
            services they provide to at risk youth. 
             
            Jeff Roberts, Family Services/Ft. Worth, STARS  
            contractor--Mr. Roberts gave an overview of  the  services  
            his program provides to at risk youth. 
             
            Joyce Strickland, Director of Mothers Against Teen  
            Violence, Project 2001--Ms. Strickland described project  
            2001.  She stated that the Project is funded through the  
            Governor's office. 
             
            Amon Rashidi, Project JAMS, Nonprofit Community-based  
            Program--Mr. Rashidi gave an overview of Project JAMS and  
            what the state needs to look at to solve the gang problem. 
             
            Juan Cantu, Jobs for Progress/ Gilbert Garcia Learning  
            Center, Ft. Worth--Mr. Cantu gave an overview of the  
            Gilbert Garcia Learning Center.  Mr. Cantu also spoke   
            about the problem of over- crowding in the present school  
            system and the need for school districts to subcontract  
            with entities such as Gilbert Garcia Learning Center.  Mr.  
            Garcia stated that three factors will mold the face of  
            Texas: 1.) the economy; 2.) the technological advancements;  
            and 3.) the increased diversity of the state. 
             
            J.E. Neel, Jet Teaching--Mr. Neal gave an overview of his  
            program for at risk youth. 
             
            Charles Eldridge, Rainbow Days--Mr. Eldridge gave an  
            overview of the Rainbow Days Program  for at-risk youth.   
            Mr. Eldridge stated that the hours right after school has  
            ended are the hours in which children display their most  
            destructive behavior. 
             
            Sal Ochoa, National Commission on Gang Violence/  
            Washington, D.C.--Mr. Ochoa recommended developing an  
  
            aggressive outreach program for at-risk youth.  He also  
            recommended the use of community prevention/intervention  
            and mediation services for children at an early age. 
             
            Robert Pitre, Pitre Vision--Mr. Pitre stated the keys to  
            helping at-risk youth are: 1.) citizens getting involved  
            with their communities;  2.) parental involvement; and 3.)  
            prevention programs. 
             
            Vicki Mann--Ms. Mann spoke about the gas blaster/toluene  
            products and other inhalants used by gang members. 
             
            Joe Yanez, Director of Beat on Life/Gang Intervention  
            Program--Mr. Yanez gave his opinion on the  programs he  
            believed worked.  Mr. Yanez believed that providing  
            children with skills and education  as well as behavior  
            modification is the best way to help at-risk youth. 
             
            Larry Mercer, Administrator, Buckner Children & Family  
            Services/Dallas--Mr. Mercer recommended the creation of the  
            Texas Youth Success commission.  He recommended identifying  
            the risk factors and children at-risk in order to solve the  
            gang problem in the state of Texas.  He also recommended  
            the use of tax incentives to induce businesses to help  
            solve the gang problem.   
             
            Judy Briscoe, Deputy director of the Texas Youth  
            Commission--Ms. Briscoe gave an update on the monitoring of  
            progressive sanctions.  Ms. Briscoe stated that TYC would  
            have the data on how many new commitments were deviations  
            from program sanctions before the next hearing, but it  
            appears the percentage may be as high as 60%.  Last month  
            TYC received 343 new commitments the highest number for one  
            month. 
             
            Written testimony was submitted by the following persons: 
            Joe Cordova, Safe Haven 
            Maria Adams, Parents Against Crime and Drugs  
            Rebecca Gonzalez, Parents Against Crime and Drugs 
             
            The committee recessed at 4:15 
             
            Respectfully submitted, 
             
            Janna Burleson, Committee Director 
             
            Royce West, Chairman