MINUTES 
          
                   SENATE COMMITTEE ON SEX OFFENDERS (INTERIM) 
                              Tuesday, May 12, 1998 
                                    1:30 p.m. 
                         Capitol Extension, Room E1.016 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Sex  
         Offenders (Interim) was held on Tuesday, May 12, 1998 in the  
         Capitol Extension, Room E1.016, at Austin, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Florence Shapiro                Senator Eliot  
                                                 Shapleigh 
         Senator John Whitmire 
          
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         The Chair called the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m..  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted.   
          
         The following members arrived after the roll was called:  none 
          
         The chair, Senator Shapiro made opening remarks, welcomed  
         invited speakers, agency staff and the public.  The chair  
         announced that the purpose of this hearing was to study the  
         issue of civil commitment of sexual predators and to review  
         sex offender registration and treatment programs.  
          
         The chair called invited panelists to provide committee  
         members with a report regarding the potential number for the  
         civil commitment of sexually violent sex offenders: 
             
              Catherine McVey, Assistant Director of Programs &  
         Services, TDCJ 
              Dr. Judy Johnson, Clinical Director for Sex Offender  
                   Treatment Programs, TDCJ 
              Mr. Tony Fabelo, Director, Criminal Justice Policy  
         Council 
              Mr. Michael Eisenberg, Policy Analyst, Criminal Justice  
         Policy Council 
              Dr. Dave Wanser, PH.D., Director of Behavioral Service,  
                   Texas Department of Mental                                  
                   Health and Mental Retardation 
              Dr. Mary Ross, PH.D., Dir. of Psychology Wichita State  
                   Hospital, Texas Department of                             
                   Mental Health and Mental Retardation 
          
         The chair called Ms. Kristy Carr with People Against Violent  
         Crime testified on the issue of civil commitment and the need  
         for its implementation.  
          
         The chair called Ms. Katherine Schaudt, testified on the issue  
         of civil commitment and the need for its implementation. 
               
         The chair called Dr. Sandra Sullivan, Director of the Family  
         Service Center of Galveston. Ms Sullivan testified on the  
         issue of treatment for juvenile sex offenders. 
          
         The chair called Dr. Gerald Rogers, President of the Texas  
         Association of Sex Offender Treatment.  Dr. Rogers testified  
         on the issue of civil commitment and the need for its  
         implementation. 
               
         The chair called invited panelists to provide committee  
         members with a report regarding juvenile sex offenders and  
         what treatments are available for those under ten years old: 
          
              Dr. Saleem Ateek, Chief Psychologist, Dallas County  
         Juvenile Justice System 
              Ms. Lisa Capers, General Counsel, Texas Juvenile  
         Probation Commission 
              Mr. Thomas Chapmond, Community Initiatives for Program  
                   Development, 
                                         Texas Department of Protective  
         & Regulatory Services 
              Ms. Karen Ells, Deputy Director of Programs, Texas   
                   Department of Protective & Regulatory                  
                   Services 
               Ms. Deborah Brendt, Director of Children's Services,  
                   Texas Department of Mental Health and                           
                   Mental Retardation 
          
         The chair called for public testimony all witnesses testifying  
         and registering are shown on the attached list.   
          
         There being no further business, at 4:20 pm Senator Shapiro  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the Chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Florence Shapiro, Chair 
          
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         Helen  Gonz lez, Clerk