MINUTES 
          
                   SENATE INTERIM COMMITTEE ON NORTH AMERICAN 
                              FREE TRADE AGREEMENT 
                            Wednesday, April 15, 1998 
                                    9:00 a.m. 
                     114 W. Commerce, City Council Chambers 
                               San Antonio, Texas 
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Interim Committee on  
         North American Free Trade Agreement was held on Wednesday,  
         April 15, 1998 at 114 W. Commerce, City Council Chambers, in  
         San Antonio, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
              Senator Carlos F. Truan, Chairman        None 
              Senator John Carona 
              Senator Mario Gallegos, Jr. 
              Senator Steve Ogden 
              Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
          
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         Chairman Truan called the joint public meeting of the Senate  
         NAFTA Committee and the House Economic Development Committee  
         to order at 9:01 a.m.  There being a quorum present, the  
         following business was transacted.   
          
         Chairman Truan offered welcoming remarks, followed by House  
         Chairman Ren  Oliveira.  Welcoming remarks were then made by:   
         Representative Van de Putte, Representative Siebert; San  
         Antonio Mayor Howard Peak; San Antonio City Councilman Roger  
         Flores II; Bexar County Commissioner Paul Elizondo; and  
         Mexican Consul Carlos Sada. 
          
         Chairman Truan made a motion to approve the Senate NAFTA  
         Committee minutes from the February 10, 1998 hearing; Senator  
         Carona seconded the motion.  Without objection, the minutes  
         were adopted. 
          
         The Chair recognized Nelson Wolff, representing the Greater  
         San Antonio Chamber of Commerce for testimony concerning the  
         impact of NAFTA on San Antonio.  A discussion followed.  The  
         Chair then recognized Ms. Marianne Bourque of the West San  
         Antonio Chamber of Commerce for a presentation to the  
         Committee. 
          
         House Chairman Oliveira then recognized Mr. Paul Roberson,  
         Executive Director of the Greater Kelly Development  
         Corporation, for testimony concerning base closures and  
         realignment.  A discussion followed.   
  
         The Chair then recognized Mr. Bill Avila for a discussion on  
         international interlocal agreements.  A discussion followed. 
          
         Mr. Jose Martinez of the Free Trade Alliance was recognized  
         for testimony concerning cross-border trucking provisions.  A  
         discussion followed.  Chairman Truan then recognized Mr. Remo  
         Mancini of the Canadian Transit Company for testimony  
         regarding border-crossing technologies.  A discussion  
         followed.  At 12:40 pm, the Committees recessed for lunch  
         until 1:30 pm.  Chairman Truan called the joint hearing back  
         to order at 1:51 p.m. and House Chairman Oliveira recognized  
         Mr. Robert Ehinger for testimony on the International Trade  
         Data System (ITDS).  A discussion followed. 
          
         House Chairman Oliveira then recognized Mr. Robert McKinley,  
         with the University of Texas-San Antonio Small Business  
         Development Center, for a summary of the small business  
         roundtable meeting held the previous day in San Antonio and  
         the recommendations that were presented at that meeting.  A  
         discussion followed. 
          
         House Chairman Oliveira recognized Dr. Jim Giermanski, with  
         Texas A&M International, for his testimony regarding  
         border-crossing technologies.  A discussion followed.  The  
         Committees then received testimony from Mr. Carlos Lopez, with  
         the Texas Department of Transportation, regarding  
         border-crossing technologies.  A discussion followed. 
          
         The Chair then recognized Mr. Fernando Mejia and Ms. Patricia  
         Perez for their testimony on the problems faced by customs  
         brokers under NAFTA.  A discussion followed. 
          
         House Chairman Oliveira next recognized Mr. Victor Miramontes  
         with the North American Development Bank (NADBank) for  
         testimony concerning the status of recent projects along the  
         Texas-Mexico border.  A discussion followed. 
          
         Mr. Frank Herrera, member of the Advisory Committee to the  
         Community Adjustment and Investment Program (CAIP) addressed  
         the Committees on the role of the CAIP and efforts that are  
         underway to assist communities in need.  A discussion  
         followed. 
          
         Mr. Peter Silva with the Border Environmental Cooperation  
         Commission (BECC) was then recognized to address the  
         Committees regarding the status of recent applications for  
         assistance and the role generally of the BECC in developing  
         infrastructure along the U.S.-Mexico border.  A discussion  
         followed. 
          
         Chairman Truan then recognized Mr. John Palmer and Ms. Sandra  
         Garza Spector to testify in opposition to the impact of NAFTA  
         on the labor markets in Texas.  A discussion followed. 
          
         The Committees then received testimony from Mr. T.G.  
         Liljenwall regarding the Freeport Business Center, and NAFTA's  
         impact on the local community.  A discussion followed. 
          
         There being no further business, at 5:19 p.m. House Chairman  
         Oliveira and Senator Shapleigh moved that the Committees be  
         adjourned. Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Carlos F. Truan, Chairman 
          
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         Carla D. Buckner, Clerk