MINUTES 
          
                    TEXAS INTEGRATED ENROLLMENT AND SERVICES 
                           JOINT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE 
                            Wednesday, March 25, 1998 
                                   10:00 a.m. 
                         County Administration Building 
                                  Dallas, Texas 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Texas Integrated Enrollment and  
         Services (TIES) Joint Legislative Oversight Committee was held  
         on Wednesday, March 25, 1998 in the County Administration  
         Building located at 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas.   
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chair             Senator Judith  
         Zaffirini 
         Senator John Carona                     Representative Robert  
         Junell 
         Representative Glen Maxey               Representative Harvey  
         Hilderbran 
          
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         Chairman Ratliff called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m.   
         The following business was transacted.   
         The following members arrived after the roll was called:   
         None. 
          
         The Chair called on representatives from the TIES Project, and  
         representatives from participating agencies, to provide an  
         overview of the proposed TIES  Plan.  Issues discussed  
         included:  overall implementation of the plan; cost benefit  
         analysis; the role of local organizations; automated system  
         and staff transition; training; and technology  
         recommendations.  Witnesses appeared as follows: 
          
              Mike McKinney, representing the Health and Human Services  
              Commission, provided oral  and written testimony. 
          
              Eric Bost, representing the Department of Human Services,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Gerald F. McKimmey, representing the TIES Project,  
              provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Gordon Taylor, representing the Health and Human Services  
              Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Judi Rosen, representing the Department of Human  
      
              Services, provided oral testimony. 
              Johnie McHugh, Texas Workforce Commission, registered as  
              a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
              Joan Montoya, representing the TIES Project, registered  
                                                                as a  
                                                                resourc 
                                                                e  
                                                                witness 
                                                                , but  
                                                                did not  
                                                                testify 
                                                                .          
          
              Jacquelyn McDonald, representing the Texas Department of   
              Health, registered as resource witness, but did not  
              testify. 
          
              Cynthia Mugerauer, representing the Department of Human  
              Services and the TIES Project,  registered as a resource  
              witness, but did not testify. 
          
              Karen Sow, representing the Department of Human Services,  
              registered as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
              Debra Stabeno, representing the Department of Health,  
              registered as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
              G. Alan Atwood, representing the Department of Health,  
              registered as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
         The Chair recognized the following witnesses to provide public  
         testimony on the TIES plan: 
          
              Patrick Bresette. representing the Center for Public  
              Policy Priorities, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Michael Lowenberg, representing the Texas Appleseed  
              Advocacy Fund, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Bill Beardall, representing the Texas Appleseed Advocacy  
              Fund, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Jane Metzinger, representing the Greater Dallas Community  
              of Churches and Hunger Task Force, provided oral  
              testimony. 
          
         The committee recessed at 11:45 a.m. and reconvened at 1:00  
         p.m. to continue hearing public testimony from the following  
         witnesses: 
          
              Ted Melina Raab, representing the Texas State Employees  
              Union, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Carmen Perez, representing the Texas State Employees  
      
              Union, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Noel High, representing the Department of Human Services,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Roger Gette, representing Legal Aid of Dallas, provided  
              oral testimony. 
          
              Liz Wolff, representing ACORN, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Deborah Kratky, representing Tarrant County Workforce  
              Board, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Martha Blaine, representing Community Council of Dallas,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Marie Zaczkowski, WIC Program - City of Dallas, provided  
              oral testimony. 
          
              Jan Sanders, Texas Impact Board, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Judy Marshall, representing the Family Place, registered  
              as a witness, but did not testify. 
          
              Julie Lowenberg, representing the League of Women Voters  
              of Texas, provided written testimony only. 
          
              Silvia Reveles, representing the Texas Immigration and  
              Refugee Coalition, provided written testimony only. 
          
         There being no further business, at 2:20 p.m. Senator Carona  
         announced that the Committee would stand recessed subject to  
         the call of the Chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chair 
          
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         Patricia Hicks, Clerk