MINUTES 
          
                           SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                  Subcommittee on Articles II and VIII Agencies 
                            Tuesday, January 20, 1998 
                                    9:00 a.m. 
                         Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Interim Finance  
         Subcommittee on Articles II and VIII Agencies was held on  
         Tuesday, January 20, 1998 in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Jane Nelson, Chair              None 
         Senator Carlos Truan 
         Senator Royce West 
          
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         Chairwoman Nelson called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.   
         The following business was transacted.   
         The following members arrived after the roll was called:   
         none. 
          
         Chairwoman Nelson made remarks regarding committee charges and  
         called on representatives from Article VIII agencies to  
         provide testimony and answer questions of the committee.  (All  
         agencies submitted written comments addressing committee  
         charges prior to the hearing date.)  Invited witnesses  
         appeared as follows: 
          
              Ray Brummett, representing the Texas Real Estate  
              Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Brian Francis, representing the Texas Real Estate  
              Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Wayne Thorburn, representing the Real Estate Commission,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Renil C. Liner,  representing the Texas Appraiser  
              Licensing and Certification Board, provided oral  
              testimony. 
               
              Elton Bomer, representing the Texas Department of  
              Insurance, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Karen A. Phillips, representing the Texas Department of  
              Insurance, provided oral testimony. 
              Rod Bordelon, representing the Office of Public Insurance  
              Counsel, provided oral testimony. 
          
              John Laakso, representing the Public Utility Commission,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Robin McKeever, representing the Public Utility  
              Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Pat Wood, representing the Public Utility Commission of  
              Texas, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Suzi McClellan, representing the Office of Public Utility  
              Counsel, provided oral testimony. 
          
              John R. Speed, representing the Board of Registration for  
              Professional Engineers, provided  oral testimony. 
          
              John Q. Taylor King, Sr., representing the Texas Funeral  
              Service Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              B. J. Miller, representing the Texas Funeral Service  
              Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Chris R. "Dick" McNeil, representing the Texas Funeral  
              Service Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Eliza May, representing the Texas Funeral Service  
              Commission, registered as a resource witness but did not  
              testify. 
          
              James Noble Johnson, representing the Board of  
              Professional Land Surveying, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Paul Kwan, representing the Board of Professional Land  
              Surveying, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Sandy Smith, representing the Board of Professional Land  
              Surveying, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Dr. Bruce A. Levy, representing the Board of Medical  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Wallace Lankford, representing the Board of Medical  
              Examiners, registered as a resource witness but did not  
              testify. 
          
              Kenneth Lowrance, representing the Board of Nurse  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Mark Marjek, representing the Board of Nurse Examiners,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Katherine A. Thomas, representing the Board of Nurse  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Marjorie Bronk, representing the Board of Vocational  
              Nurse Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Linda Rae Kent, representing the Board of Vocational  
              Nurse Examiners, registered as a resource witness but did  
              not testify. 
          
              LaVeta Sweeney, representing the Board of Vocational  
              Nurse Examiners, registered as a resource witness but did  
              not testify. 
          
              Lois Ewald, representing the Optometry Board, provided  
              oral testimony. 
          
              Jo-Christy Brown, representing the Structural Pest  
              Control Board, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Benny Mathis, representing the Structural Pest Control  
              Board, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Gay Dodson, representing the Board of Pharmacy, provided  
              oral testimony. 
          
              Susan Jacobson, representing the Board of Pharmacy,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Cathy Stella, representing the Board of Pharmacy,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Carol Fisher, representing the Board of Pharmacy,  
              registered as a resource witness but did not testify. 
          
              John Maline, representing the Executive Council of  
              Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy Examiners,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Gilbert Kissling, representing the Board of Plumbing  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              J. DeWitt Morizon, representing the Board of Plumbing  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Jim Fowler, representing the Board of Plumbing Examiners,  
              registered as a resource witness but did not testify. 
          
              Allen M. Hymans, representing the Board of Podiatric  
              Medical Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Janie Alonzo, representing the Board of Podiatric Medical  
              Examiners, registered as a resource witness but did not  
              testify. 
  
              Paula Flowerday, representing the Racing Commission,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Denise Crawford, representing the Securities Board,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Tom Spradlin, representing the Securities Board,  
              registered as a resource witness but did not testify. 
          
              David Montoya, representing the Board of Tax Professional  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Ron Allen, representing the Board of Veterinary Medical  
              Examiners, provided oral testimony. 
          At 3:45 p.m., Chairwoman Nelson announced that the Committee would  
    stand recessed until 9:00 a.m.,  Wednesday, January 21, 1998.   
    Without objection, it was so ordered.  
          
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         Senator Jane Nelson, Chair 
          
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         Patricia Hicks, Clerk