MINUTES 
          
                           SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                  Interim Subcommittee on Article III Agencies 
                           Thursday, December 4, 1997 
                                     9:00 am 
                         Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Interim Finance  
         Subcommittee on Article III Agencies was held on Thursday,  
         December 4, 1997 in the Capitol Extension, Room E1.036, at  
         Austin, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Mike Moncrief, Chair            Senator J.E. Brown 
                                                 Senator Judith  
         Zaffirini 
                                                  
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         After standing in recess from December 3, 1997, the committee  
         reconvened at 9:00 a.m. to transact the following business. 
            
         Chairman Moncrief called on representatives from higher  
         education institutions to answer questions regarding the  
         committee charges.  Invited witnesses appeared as follows: 
          
              Arthur K. Smith, representing the University of Houston  
              System, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Max Castillo, representing the University of Houston -  
              Downtown, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Williams A. Staples, representing the University of  
              Houston - Clear Lake, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Karen S. Haynes, representing the University of Houston -  
              Victoria, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Dr. Don Haragan, representing Texas Tech University,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Jim Branjes, representing Texas Tech University, provided  
              oral testimony. 
          
              Alfred Hurley, representing the University of North  
              Texas, provided oral testimony. 
  
              Phil Diebel, representing the University of North Texas,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Virginia Wheeless, representing the University of North  
              Texas, registered but did not testify. 
          
              Dr. Dan Angel, representing Stephen F. Austin State  
              University, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Carol Noble, representing the State Auditor's Office,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Janelle C. Ashley, representing Stephen F. Austin State  
              University, registered but did not testify. 
          
              James C. Hardy, representing Stephen F. Austin State  
              University, registered but did not testify. 
          
              Roland Smith, representing Stephen F. Austin State  
              University, registered but did not testify. 
          
              Dr. Louis J. Rodriguez, representing Midwestern State  
              University, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Alvin G. Hooten, representing Midwestern State  
              University, registered but did not testify. 
          
              Carol D. Surles, representing Texas Woman's University,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Robert Tuggle, representing Texas Woman's University,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              James M. Douglas, representing Texas Southern University,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Bobby Young, representing Texas Southern University,  
              provided oral testimony. 
          
              Luther Bud Joyner, representing the Texas Association of  
              Community Colleges, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Rey Garcia, representing the Texas Association of  
              Community Colleges, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Ralph I. Strother, representing the Texas State Technical  
              College System, provided oral testimony. 
          
              J. Gary Hendricks, representing the Texas State Technical  
              College System, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Fred L. Williams, representing Texas State Technical  
              College - Waco, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Susan Vonder Hoya, representing Texas State Technical  
      
              College - Waco, registered but did not testify. 
          
         The Chair announced that the next hearing will focus on  
         health-related higher education institutions and is scheduled  
         for January 28, 1998. 
          
         There being no further business, at 11:30 a.m., Chairman  
         Moncrief announced that the committee would stand in recess  
         subject to the call of the Chair.  Without objection, it was  
         so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Mike Moncrief, Chair 
          
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         Patricia Hicks, Clerk