MINUTES 
          
                  Legislative Committee on Municipal Franchise  
                   Agreements for Telecommunications Utilities 
                           Thursday, November 20, 1997 
                                    10:00 am 
                                McAllen City Hall 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule 11.11, a  
         public hearing of the Senate Committee on Intergovernmental  
         Relations was held on Thursday, November 20, 1997 in McAllen City  
         Hall, at McAllen, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr.                Senator David Sibley 
         Representative Bill Carter                                                                
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Representative Fred Hill                                                                  
         Representative Steven Wolens  
          
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         Chairman Lucio called the meeting to order at 10:06 am.  The  
         following business was transacted.   
         The following members arrived after the roll was called:  none. 
          
         Other members of the legislature who participated in the discussion  
         include: 
         Representative Robert Guitierrez 
         Representative Juan Hinojosa 
         Representative Kino Flores 
          
         Chairman Lucio recognized the following witnesses: 
         Arnette, Bill, representing the City of San Antonio, testified on  
         the interim charge.  
         Darling, James, representing the City of McAllen, testified on the  
         interim charge.  
         Davilla, Manuel, representing Staff Operations for Southwestern  
         Bell, testified on the interim charge. 
         Flores, Henry, representing Texas Telephone Association, testified  
         on the interim charge. 
         Milford, John, representing the City of Edinburg, testified on the  
         interim charge. 
         Montalvo, Leo, representing the City of McAllen, gave opening  
         remarks. 
         Ochoa, Joe, representing the City of Edinburg, testified on the  
         interim charge. 
         Prim, Natalie, representing the City of Harlingen, testified on the  
         interim charge. 
         Wood, John, representing the City of Brownsville, testified on the  
         interim charge. 
  
         A brief discussion followed. 
          
         Chairman Lucio recognized the following witnesses who registered but  
         did not testify: 
          Igo, Shanna, representing Texas Municipal League. 
         Wecker, Ivan, representing the City of Brownsville. 
          
         There being no further business, 12:35 pm Chairman Bill Carter moved  
         that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of the Chair.   
         Without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
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         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr., Co-Chair 
          
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         Representative Bill Carter, Co-Chair 
          
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         Amy B. Kelley, Clerk